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Early access to the dark mode (mobile web, logged-in)

Hi everyone, as announced in November, the Web team at the Wikimedia Foundation is working on dark (sometimes also called night) mode. Now, we have released the feature for logged-in users of advanced mobile mode across all wikis for testing purposes. But don't worry, the new feature is not disruptive! (See the "known limitations" section below.) It's just important for us to work together with you before we release this feature to a wider audience. Our goals for the early rollout are to:

• Show what we've built very early. The earlier you are involved, the more your voices will be reflected in the final version
• Get your help with flagging bugs, issues, and requests
• Work with technical editors to adjust various templates and gadgets to the dark mode

Go to the project page and the FAQ page to see more information about the basics of this project.

Known limitations of the initial release

• Currently, dark mode is only available on mobile, for logged-in users who have opted into advanced mode, as an opt-in feature.
• Gadgets may initially not work well with dark mode and may have to be updated.
• Our first goal is making dark mode work on articles. Special pages, talk pages, and other namespaces have not been updated to work in dark mode yet. We have temporarily disabled dark mode on some of these pages.

What we would like you to do (the broad community)

If you have questions - ask us! Also, where appropriate, consider linking to the Recommendations for dark mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis on pages explaining how to define colors in code. Soon, this page will be marked for translation. We would like to emphasize that the recommendations may evolve. For this reason, we are not suggesting to create your local wiki copies of recommendations. At some point, the copy could become different from the original version.

What we would like you to do (template editors, interface admins, technical editors)

When most bugs are solved, we'll be able to make the dark mode available for readers on both desktop and mobile. To make this happen, we need to work together with you on reporting and solving the problems.

1. To turn it on, use the mobile website and go to the settings part of your menu and opt into advanced mode, if you haven't already. Then, set the color to dark. (Later, we will be allowing the device preferences to set dark mode automatically).
2. Next, go to different articles and look for issues:
   • If you have noticed an issue with a template but do not know how to fix it
     1. Go to the recommendations page and find a relevant example
     2. If no relevant example is available or you're not sure of the fix, contact us
   • If you want to debug many templates in dark mode
     1. Go to https://night-mode-checker.wmcloud.org/ and identify templates that need to be fixed. The tool flags the top 100 most read articles.
     2. Go to the recommendations page and find a relevant example
     3. If no relevant example is available or you're not sure of the fix, contact us
   • If you want to identify problems beyond the top 100 articles.
     1. Install the WCAG color contrast browser extension (Chrome, Firefox) and visit some articles. Use it to identify problems
     2. Go to the recommendations page and find relevant examples
     3. If no relevant example is available or you're not sure of the fix, contact us
   • If you have a bug report for dark mode that is not related to templates
     1. Take a screenshot of what you are observing.
     2. Contact us. If possible, please write down your browser version and operating system version.

Thank you. We're looking forward to your opinions and comments! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (overleg) 10 mei 2024 16:55 (CEST)

Tech News: 2024-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• On Wikisource there is a special page listing pages of works without corresponding scan images. Now you can use the new magic word __EXPECTWITHOUTSCANS__ to exclude certain pages (list of editions or translations of works) from that list. [1]
• If you use the user-preference "Voorvertoning weergeven zonder de pagina opnieuw te laden", then the template-page feature "Voorvertoning weergeven met dit sjabloon" will now also work without reloading the page. [2]
• Kartographer maps can now specify an alternative text via the alt= attribute. This is identical in usage to the alt= attribute in the image and gallery syntax. An exception for this feature is wikis like Wikivoyage where the miniature maps are interactive. [3]
• The old Guided Tour for the "New Filters for Edit Review" feature has been removed. It was created in 2017 to show people with older accounts how the interface had changed, and has now been seen by most of the intended people. [4]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar). [5][6]
• The Speciaal:Zoeken results page will now use CSS flex attributes, for better accessibility, instead of a table. If you have a gadget or script that adjusts search results, you should update your script to the new HTML structure. [7]

Future changes

• In the Vector 2022 skin, main pages will be displayed at full width (like special pages). The goal is to keep the number of characters per line large enough. This is related to the coming changes to typography in Vector 2022. Learn more. [8]
• Two columns of the pagelinks database table (pl_namespace and pl_title) are being dropped soon. Users must use two columns of the new linktarget table instead (lt_namespace and lt_title). In your existing SQL queries:
  1. Replace JOIN pagelinks with JOIN linktarget and pl_ with lt_ in the ON statement
  2. Below that add JOIN pagelinks ON lt_id = pl_target_id
  • See phab:T222224 for technical reasoning. [9][10]

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Tech News: 2024-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. [11]
• New changes have been made to the UploadWizard in Wikimedia Commons: the overall layout has been improved, by following new styling and spacing for the form and its fields; the headers and helper text for each of the fields was changed; the Caption field is now a required field, and there is an option for users to copy their caption into the media description. [12][13]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 May. It will be on all wikis from 23 May (calendar). [14][15]
• The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It will change on 22 May in some skins (Timeless, Modern, CologneBlue, Nostalgia, and Monobook). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in all other skins. The developers are also considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.

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Tech News: 2024-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Several bugs related to the latest updates to the UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons have been fixed. For more information, see T365107 and T365119.
• In March 2024 a new addPortlet API was added to allow gadgets to create new portlets (menus) in the skin. In certain skins this can be used to create dropdowns. Gadget developers are invited to try it and give feedback.
• Some CSS in the Minerva skin has been removed to enable easier community configuration. Interface editors should check the rendering on mobile devices for aspects related to the classes: .collapsible, .multicol, .reflist, .coordinates, .topicon. Further details are available on replacement CSS if it is needed.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar). [16][17]
• When you visit a wiki where you don't yet have a local account, local rules such as edit filters can sometimes prevent your account from being created. Starting this week, MediaWiki takes your global rights into account when evaluating whether you can override such local rules. [18]

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Tech News: 2024-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• It is now possible for local administrators to add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without JavaScript. Documentation is available. [19]
• The message name for the definition of the tracking category of WikiHiero has changed from "MediaWiki:Wikhiero-usage-tracking-category" to "MediaWiki:Wikihiero-usage-tracking-category". [20]
• One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Kadazandusun (w:dtp:) [21]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 June. It will be on all wikis from 6 June (calendar). [22][23]

Future changes

• Next week, on wikis with the Vector 2022 skin as the default, logged-out desktop users will be able to choose between different font sizes. The default font size will also be increased for them. This is to make Wikimedia projects easier to read. Learn more.

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Tech News: 2024-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The software used to render SVG files has been updated to a new version, fixing many longstanding bugs in SVG rendering. [24]
• The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It was changed last week in some skins (Vector legacy and Minerva). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in Vector-2022. The developers are still considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
• The HTML markup used for citations by Parsoid changed last week. In places where Parsoid previously added the mw-reference-text class, Parsoid now also adds the reference-text class for better compatibility with the legacy parser. More details are available. [25]

Problems

• There was a bug with the Content Translation interface that caused the tools menus to appear in the wrong location. This has now been fixed. [26]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 June. It will be on all wikis from 13 June (calendar). [27][28]
• The new version of MediaWiki includes another change to the HTML markup used for citations: Parsoid will now generate a <span class="mw-cite-backlink"> wrapper for both named and unnamed references for better compatibility with the legacy parser. Interface administrators should verify that gadgets that interact with citations are compatible with the new markup. More details are available. [29]
• On multilingual wikis that use the <translate> system, there is a feature that shows potentially-outdated translations with a pink background until they are updated or confirmed. From this week, confirming translations will be logged, and there is a new user-right that can be required for confirming translations if the community requests it. [30]

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Infoboxen

De weergave van infoboxen was vandaag afwijkend door een ongecommuncieerde wijziging van de ontwikkelaars. Vector 2022 deelt nu bepaalde stijlen met Minerva, waardoor bijna al onze infobox-stijlen werden overruled in Vector 2022. Deze wijziging heb ik voor nu lokaal uitgeschakeld, waardoor helaas ook de stijlen niet meer worden toegepast op mobiel en tablet waar ze wel wenselijk waren. Op Phabricator heb ik dit ook toegelicht, hopelijk komt daar een constructieve oplossing uitrollen. Sjoerd de Bruin (overleg)‍ 13 jun 2024 22:45 (CEST)

De wijzigingen zijn (tijdelijk) globaal teruggedraaid. Sjoerd de Bruin (overleg)‍ 14 jun 2024 18:41 (CEST)

Hey everyone, this is the Web team working on skins. We wanted to explain the situation, apologize, and share what will happen next. Thank you all for reporting and helping us fix things.

This week, we released styling changes to hatnotes, templates, and images. Some of these changes were not intended for rollout this week. Our focus was mostly on "Images should be responsive in Vector and restrained to a max-size" (T113101) and related tasks. We apologize for introducing bugs and making editors confused.

We read concerns shared on different wikis and on Discord, and went over our options. We decided to revert all changes to templates and hatnotes for the time being, and keep the changes to images. Next, we'll review the changes to templates and hatnotes, and bring them for discussion one by one prior to proceeding. If you notice any remaining issues with images, please report them in comments to this Phabricator ticket. We hope to have a fix for the remaining issue on Monday.

Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (overleg) 14 jun 2024 21:03 (CEST)

Tech News: 2024-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• People who attempt to add an external link in the visual editor will now receive immediate feedback if they attempt to link to a domain that a project has decided to block. Please see Edit check for more details. [31]
• The new Community Configuration extension is available on Test Wikipedia. This extension allows communities to customize specific features to meet their local needs. Currently only Growth features are configurable, but the extension will support other Community Configuration use cases in the future. [32][33]
• The dark mode beta feature is now available on category and help pages, as well as more special pages. There may be contrast issues. Please report bugs on the project talk page. [34]

Problems

• Cloud Services tools were not available for 25 minutes last week. This was caused by a faulty hardware cable in the data center. [35]
• Last week, styling updates were made to the Vector 2022 skin. This caused unforeseen issues with templates, hatnotes, and images. Changes to templates and hatnotes were reverted. Most issues with images were fixed. If you still see any, report them here. [36]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar). [37][38]
• Starting June 18, the Reference Edit Check will be deployed to a new set of Wikipedias. This feature is intended to help newcomers and to assist edit-patrollers by inviting people who are adding new content to a Wikipedia article to add a citation when they do not do so themselves. During a test at 11 wikis, the number of citations added more than doubled when Reference Check was shown to people. Reference Check is community configurable. [39]
• Mailing lists will be unavailable for roughly two hours on Tuesday 10:00–12:00 UTC. This is to enable migration to a new server and upgrade its software. [40]

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Achtergrondkleur

Op Overleg sjabloon:Zijbalk indeling tijdperk Archeïcum heb ik aangekaart dat de achtergrondkleur in sommige velden van het sjabloon de tekst onleesbaar maken. Nu blijken die kleuren niet geheel willekeurig gekozen maar een band te hebben met de betreffende periode. Het vervangen van de kleuren is daarmee geen optie. Daarom is mijn vraag of er technische mogelijkheden zijn om de kleur nog steeds te linken aan de betreffende periode maar zonder dat deze ook als achtergrondkleur voor de tekst of link dient? Ik denk daarbij bijvoorbeeld aan de portalenbalk op de hoofdpagina waarbij de felle / donkerder kleuren alleen te zien zijn in een smalle streep boven het tekstvak. Bij voorbaat dank. LeeGer 19 jun 2024 16:36 (CEST)

Je kan een "lege" tabelcel gebruiken van een paar pixels breed, de bovenstaande cellen moeten dan een colspan hebben:

Test		Test
	Test		Test

Sjoerd de Bruin (overleg)‍ 19 jun 2024 16:46 (CEST)

Dank je, @Woudloper Is dit wellicht een optie? LeeGer 19 jun 2024 18:38 (CEST)

Je zou ook voor iets zachtere kleuren kunnen kiezen, met behoud van de kleurtint, bv. zoals hier. –bdijkstra (overleg) 19 jun 2024 21:25 (CEST)

Bovenstaande zou kunnen werken, maar ik kan lastig voorstellen hoe het geheel eruit komt te zien. Het maakt de tabel misschien juist rommeliger en minder onoverzichtelijk. Een andere oplossing is de letters zwart te maken, maar dan is het niet direct duidelijk dat het links zijn.

Ik heb de kleuren gisteren al iets zachter gemaakt. Dat is maar een gedeeltelijke oplossing want in regel drukt de hardheid van de kleur de ouderdom uit. Ouder krijgt altijd een hardere kleur en er is altijd ouder.

Waar ik nog aan dacht is een vectorplaatje met witte vlekken op de plek van de namen, waar de links dan zwevend in gezet worden. Ik heb ooit met die oplossing geëxperimenteerd op o.a. Paratethyszee en ik neem aan dat het de opmaak-gerelateerde bezwaren wegneemt. Woudloper _overleg 20 jun 2024 00:23 (CEST)

Wat betreft de kleuren die je gisteren hebt aangepast. De achtergrondkleur voor Proterozoïcum werkt daar voor mij prima. Bij de anderen moet ik merkbaar moeite doen om de tekst te lezen, waar het lezen van zwarte tekst op een witte of bijna witte achtergrond voor mij meestal moeiteloos gaat. LeeGer 20 jun 2024 05:51 (CEST)

Eon	Era	Periode	Ouderdom Ma
Proterozoïcum	Paleoproterozoïcum	Siderium	later
Archeïcum	Neoarcheïcum		2500 - 2800
	Mesoarcheïcum		2800 - 3200
	Paleoarcheïcum		3200 - 3600
	Eoarcheïcum		3600 - 4000
Hadeïcum			vroeger
Indeling van het Archeïcum

Eon	Era	Periode	Ouderdom Ma
Proterozoïcum	Paleoproterozoïcum	Siderium	later
Archeïcum	Neoarcheïcum		2500 - 2800
	Mesoarcheïcum		2800 - 3200
	Paleoarcheïcum		3200 - 3600
	Eoarcheïcum		3600 - 4000
Hadeïcum			vroeger
Indeling van het Archeïcum

Even ter vergelijking: dezelfde tabel met zwarte en witte letters. Zwart vind ik in ieder geval een stuk duidelijker dan blauw, misschien op het Hadeïcum na. Ik heb de bovenste regel niet meegenomen in dit voorbeeld, maar bij zwarte letters zou die n.m.m. ook zwart moeten worden. Een afwijkende link met witte letters kan ik inkomen, maar afwijkende links met blauw vind ik te rommelig worden.

Is zwart een acceptabele voorlopige oplossing? Woudloper _overleg 20 jun 2024 12:40 (CEST)

Volgens mij is dit wel een goede oplossing: Siderium

Gekleurde achtergrond, maar specifiek voor de tekst wit als achtergrond. Sjablonen: {{Blauw}} en {{WoordKleur}}  →bertux 20 jun 2024 13:11 (CEST)

Eon	Era	Periode	Ouderdom Ma
Proterozoïcum	Paleoproterozoïcum	Siderium	later
Archeïcum	Neoarcheïcum		2500 - 2800
	Mesoarcheïcum		2800 - 3200
	Paleoarcheïcum		3200 - 3600
	Eoarcheïcum		3600 - 4000
Hadeïcum			vroeger
Indeling van het Archeïcum

Hee! Bertux bedankt. Ik kende {{WoordKleur}} nog niet. Ik neem aan dat "dotted" een van vele opties is?

Zie hiernaast voor het resultaat, ter vergelijking. Woudloper _overleg 20 jun 2024 15:12 (CEST)

Ik wist dat je met basale html de tekstachtergrond kunt instellen, dus ik heb gezocht tot ik een sjabloon vond dat dit implementeerde. Je hebt solid, dotted en dashed, maar in dit geval zie ik amper verschil. In het volgende voorbeeld zie je de defaultwaarde solid en de hoeken wat minder afgerond. Kleinigheid, kwestie van smaak, het probleem lijkt opgelost →bertux 20 jun 2024 15:58 (CEST)

De versie met de gestippelde rand oogt voor mij het rustigste. Randloos is niet mogelijk? LeeGer 20 jun 2024 17:17 (CEST)

Vast wel, als iemand het sjabloon aan wil passen. Maar het resultaat zou bij lichte achtergrondkleuren wel eens tegen kunnen vallen: het wit kan dan visueel uitlopen in de kleur of andersom  →bertux 20 jun 2024 19:25 (CEST)

Eon	Era	Periode	Ouderdom Ma
Proterozoïcum	Paleoproterozoïcum	Siderium	later
Archeïcum	Neoarcheïcum		2500 - 2800
	Mesoarcheïcum		2800 - 3200
	Paleoarcheïcum		3200 - 3600
	Eoarcheïcum		3600 - 4000
Hadeïcum			vroeger
Indeling van het Archeïcum (hoekiger, solid)

Rd en Wikidatalink

Is dit gebruikelijk/gewenst? Het lijkt me een beetje raar namelijk. Ymnes (overleg) 20 jun 2024 19:53 (CEST)

Zie Categorie:Wikipedia:Redirect verbonden met een Wikidata-item, er zijn inmiddels al zo'n 16.000. Door dat sjabloon zijn ze gemakkelijker te onderhouden. –bdijkstra (overleg) 20 jun 2024 20:11 (CEST)

Oké, dank je. Ymnes (overleg) 20 jun 2024 20:15 (CEST)